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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by Greg Comfort</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Comfort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, looks like they didn&#039;t last twelve months. Both the .co.nz and .com sites appear to be well gone. Tee hee.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, looks like they didn&#039;t last twelve months. Both the .co.nz and .com sites appear to be well gone. Tee hee.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Read About My InfoConnect Project in Computerworld by Rumi Shivaz</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/12/read-about-my-infoconnect-project-in-computerworld/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumi Shivaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article John ... and great to see this idea getting accepted by the developer/service provider community.  I thought you&#039;ll get 10 - 20 people signing up but great to hear almost 140 developers have signed up so far.  We&#039;ll done to NZTA team specially Deidre Hills &amp; Deryk Whyte ... other public sector organisations should follow suit and open up some of the valuable data they could open up to public. I think the estimated journey time feed would be a huge step forward, and really look forward to having that feed available in the near year.  

Also, NZTA has invested in new traffic management system that will allow them to feed out lot more API feeds in the next future.  So 2009 is going to be a very exciting time  because there is a huge opportunity for people to create new apps using NZTA data and mashing it up with the likes of Google maps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article John &#8230; and great to see this idea getting accepted by the developer/service provider community.  I thought you&#8217;ll get 10 &#8211; 20 people signing up but great to hear almost 140 developers have signed up so far.  We&#8217;ll done to NZTA team specially Deidre Hills &amp; Deryk Whyte &#8230; other public sector organisations should follow suit and open up some of the valuable data they could open up to public. I think the estimated journey time feed would be a huge step forward, and really look forward to having that feed available in the near year.  </p>
<p>Also, NZTA has invested in new traffic management system that will allow them to feed out lot more API feeds in the next future.  So 2009 is going to be a very exciting time  because there is a huge opportunity for people to create new apps using NZTA data and mashing it up with the likes of Google maps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on yMedia Challenge ‘07 &#8211; Uber:savvy by In the news &#124; yMedia</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2007/10/ymedia-challenge-07-ubersavvy/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>In the news &#124; yMedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beattie from Marker speaks about his presentation at the 2007 workshop here.   Tagged as Press + Categorized as [...] </description>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by James McGlinn</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>James McGlinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Kepes from Diversity has also posted on this:

http://diversity.net.nz/a-search-engine-now-thats-novel/2008/10/23/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Kepes from Diversity has also posted on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://diversity.net.nz/a-search-engine-now-thats-novel/2008/10/23/" rel="nofollow">http://diversity.net.nz/a-search-engine-now-thats-novel/2008/10/23/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by Tanya Smith</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say simply if it ain&#039;t broke don&#039;t fix it. I have never had a problem with Google and am quite brand loyal now so it would take a giant leap for me to change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say simply if it ain&#8217;t broke don&#8217;t fix it. I have never had a problem with Google and am quite brand loyal now so it would take a giant leap for me to change</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by Jon Beattie</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t really Tall Poppy syndrome as they are not yet successful.  I just think that they are facing serious challenges that don&#039;t seem to have been considered. 

They don&#039;t need just a small percentage of New Zealand&#039;s search market share, they need to be substantially more than Yahoo! and Microsoft Live to even justify it as an advertising option. 

Having been involved in many, many New Zealand web start ups, building a substantial audience is hard, and takes a long time. This is one of the smallest Internet populations in the world and they have chosen a revenue model that depends entirely on scale. 

The other issue that hasn&#039;t been addressed is how they are clearly different and better than the market leader? I&#039;m not saying that you shouldn&#039;t take on Google directly, and there are many companies doing this successfully, such as Zoho. However, if you are going to take them on, you need to be clear what your difference is, and I can&#039;t see it? Copying Google&#039;s business model exactly but then applying it to one of the smallest markets in the world, just doesn&#039;t make sense to me. 

TradeMe worked because they had a better product than eBay, and still do. They also had the advantage of minimal competition for many years to enable them to build their critical mass. By the time the dust from the dot com crash settled and eBay was considering New Zealand again, it was too late. Whereas, Searchii are launching at a time, when Google has unprecedented market share and now a strong local presence in New Zealand. 

There are so many other ways they could have done this. They are not even vaguely attractive to Google as an acquisition opportunity. Would Google pay them a high multiple for their search algorithm or crawler technology? The valuation would be purely based on traffic, in which case they would have been better to build an audience and just sign up to AdSense. Then, they would be an attractive advertising option for our clients. 

I hope they do succeed, nothing makes me more upset than seeing capital and resources wasted in the failure of New Zealand founded technology ventures, as it makes it even harder for the next guy. This post is just my opinion of the challenges they face, that don&#039;t seem to have been considered based on the interview with the founder I saw. Maybe they have answers to all of these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t really Tall Poppy syndrome as they are not yet successful.  I just think that they are facing serious challenges that don&#8217;t seem to have been considered. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t need just a small percentage of New Zealand&#8217;s search market share, they need to be substantially more than Yahoo! and Microsoft Live to even justify it as an advertising option. </p>
<p>Having been involved in many, many New Zealand web start ups, building a substantial audience is hard, and takes a long time. This is one of the smallest Internet populations in the world and they have chosen a revenue model that depends entirely on scale. </p>
<p>The other issue that hasn&#8217;t been addressed is how they are clearly different and better than the market leader? I&#8217;m not saying that you shouldn&#8217;t take on Google directly, and there are many companies doing this successfully, such as Zoho. However, if you are going to take them on, you need to be clear what your difference is, and I can&#8217;t see it? Copying Google&#8217;s business model exactly but then applying it to one of the smallest markets in the world, just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. </p>
<p>TradeMe worked because they had a better product than eBay, and still do. They also had the advantage of minimal competition for many years to enable them to build their critical mass. By the time the dust from the dot com crash settled and eBay was considering New Zealand again, it was too late. Whereas, Searchii are launching at a time, when Google has unprecedented market share and now a strong local presence in New Zealand. </p>
<p>There are so many other ways they could have done this. They are not even vaguely attractive to Google as an acquisition opportunity. Would Google pay them a high multiple for their search algorithm or crawler technology? The valuation would be purely based on traffic, in which case they would have been better to build an audience and just sign up to AdSense. Then, they would be an attractive advertising option for our clients. </p>
<p>I hope they do succeed, nothing makes me more upset than seeing capital and resources wasted in the failure of New Zealand founded technology ventures, as it makes it even harder for the next guy. This post is just my opinion of the challenges they face, that don&#8217;t seem to have been considered based on the interview with the founder I saw. Maybe they have answers to all of these.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by maitland</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>maitland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give the guy a break. Classic Tall &quot;POPPY&quot; syndrome here.   

 Why not shoot for the stars?   Why NOT have audacious goals and try to beat the best.  


You don&#039;t start out by saying you want to be half as good as a shitty search engine.  

This guy only needs a small percentage of online advertising to be a successful business.   Especially in NZ.

Good luck to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the guy a break. Classic Tall &#8220;POPPY&#8221; syndrome here.   </p>
<p> Why not shoot for the stars?   Why NOT have audacious goals and try to beat the best.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t start out by saying you want to be half as good as a shitty search engine.  </p>
<p>This guy only needs a small percentage of online advertising to be a successful business.   Especially in NZ.</p>
<p>Good luck to him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by James McGlinn</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>James McGlinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree Jon.

From their tech page: &quot;To search the billions of pages on the web, Searchii also uses meta search technology to grab the most relevant results from other leading search engines.&quot;

So they&#039;re rehashing Google&#039;s results and selling placement around it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree Jon.</p>
<p>From their tech page: &#8220;To search the billions of pages on the web, Searchii also uses meta search technology to grab the most relevant results from other leading search engines.&#8221;</p>
<p>So they&#8217;re rehashing Google&#8217;s results and selling placement around it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Searchii &#8211; New Zealand&#8217;s Answer to Google?!!? by Nivin</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2008/10/searchii-new-zealands-answer-to-google/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Nivin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have one thing to say:

Fail search.

Nivin, out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have one thing to say:</p>
<p>Fail search.</p>
<p>Nivin, out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shanghai City Guide by Jon Beattie</title>
		<link>http://archives.jonbeattie.com/2007/02/shanghai-city-guide/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That photo of the Mountain Dew was from Shanghai Aquarium.</description>
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